View Poll Results: How would you rank this raid

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  • Excellent

    0 0%
  • Moderate

    0 0%
  • Same as everything else

    0 0%
  • Hard

    4 25.00%
  • Difficult to the nth power

    7 43.75%
  • Tried and walked away

    2 12.50%
  • Took the time to hit dredges

    2 12.50%
  • Took the time and did drac bases

    1 6.25%
  • Took the time to do other campaigns

    3 18.75%
  • Watched Midget porn and football all weekend

    3 18.75%
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  1. #1
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    I ask all to read and share

    Lets be realistic here for a second............

    If people accept this damage and coin then the game is over for me and many others. Take one step back before you coin and realize your actions affect everyone else in the game. The raids will only get harder, the faction tactics that work this month will not work as well next month if at all. When Kixeye is pitching builds, it shows just how badly tuned this raid is, but it comes down to are people afraid they will fall behind if they don't do this raid.

    Yes people are spending big ass coins to refit rhinos and tank frostys. While I know Kixeye needs to survive as a company. There comes a point where coiners cut the throats of everyone. I thought my skulled V2H with Z missiles would kick some ass, but I just melted. I thought gores would work wonders as I didn't have to worry about evade. I was pouring rockets in the 55 and only killed a few ships.

    I can only say if at some point we don't unite, then in 6 months 50% of us wont be here. I am just being honest and not trying to sound like a whiner. I am willing to throw 10 to 20 dollars to win a ship per month. That way it keeps me happy because even though I am not relevant in the big picture I am meeting my goals. If I can't win raid ships then what do I have left?

    The other thing to look at is what has happened....

    No more grease monkeys (942K U and only have got 2 since the rogue crew change)
    No more grease monkeys from campaigns
    Sea targets pay less and less each raid
    Prices go up each raid
    No more grinding lower targets
    No more helping others
    Limited weapons
    Super Weapons and Hulls being offered each month by attacking elite targets
    FAT giving out game changing hulls which was said that would never happen
    Docks going up to 36 to 38K weight
    New Campaigns coming which also might mean new URFs as well


    They keep taking away and adding new things just when the normal players get to the point where they can compete. I am not full of doom and gloom, but it actually feels like the first time there is nothing to look forward too in the game. I actually was excited that my fleets might actually do well.

    35s = 320 points seriously?
    55s = 40K points 10 = 400K 100 = 4M It only takes about 2500 of them to get all the prizes in the combo pack

    Then lets expand on the prize pack combo of all the nice things that work together. Why is raid inflation price of prizes so high but target prices so low? I am baffled by the brilliance of our CM mostly saying he was excited about this raid. What is exciting about it? There is no skill, build a super tank and then have long range missile hit the targets. What happened to hiding behind ice cubes so torps couldn't hit you, or doing things in a specific way to mitigate damage, or being able to prep out things in a timely manner?

    If you're not using a bullseye crew you have noticed the massive amount of evade and on top of that crazy resistance to everything. Many people have tried using subs and it can work if you have about 72 hours to sit glued to a chair with gamer flat ass syndrome. Who has time for that?

    I have to ask what happened to Kixeyes foundation of letting me win a hull and some tokens for 20 dollars a month? What has changed so rapidly that over the last 3 months that the whole game has changed. I have to say 115M in the FM is as tedious as jerking off a flea with pliers, crew changes, no grease monkeys, no co-op, changing raids midstream, no grinding lower campaigns, lower paying sea targets, 30 minute campaign cool downs, adding new have to have ships from the FAT, and now a raid that has the strategy of a monkey fucking a goat.

    I can only ask the community if we don't come together soon. What will change next? How much harder will things get? I know I could adapt and start refitting now, but the question becomes would that strategy work enough next month to make it worth it or would it just make me more frustrated? There isn't much in the raid I wan't because without a video to see how it actually works. I have no faith in Kixeye. This is just about me venting my frustrations with the way the new development team is headed.

    Those still doing the raid cheers and those sitting it out good football games on this week. Sorry so long, but it just feels like the new developers have destroyed our game and are taking it in a new direction that is so far from the original game we loved.
    Last edited by Michigan Marauder; 09-11-2015 at 06:15 PM.

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    also, the prizes suck so no big loss missing this crapfest
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    shared this on BPN .. hopefully people will start paying attention

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michigan Marauder View Post

    I know I could adapt and start refitting now, but the question becomes would that strategy work enough next month to make it worth it or would it just make me more frustrated?
    I can't even see refitting anything as a strategy, the best fleets against the new faction that I've seen so far (Frosty/Rhino) still cost way more to use than I'm willing to pay for a raid. I don't even have a strategy to attempt! Best thing the community can do is sit this one out. Appears that's what most are doing...every campaign tower lit up that I've found has been regular campaigns and not the raid.
    Last edited by CornDog; 09-11-2015 at 08:02 PM.

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    This thread is also on the BV Page.

    I'm wondering if the folks designing this raid are gamers, and what their thoughts are. Is this raid something they would do with their own money? Would they consider it affordable with an appropriate ratio of value vs fun?

    Regarding Doom Roosters comments on the show we did last week about the targets being fun, the only way he can defend his credibility, in my eyes, would be to say the targets changed.

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    i just wonder what they are doing at kix now, i mean surely they can see that no one is doing this fkfest, how long are they gonna wait to attempt a fix to give folks a chance?

    every minute theyre hemorrhaging customers and dont seem to give a fk about it



    oh right then they would have to admit they fked up,, so never then
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    https://community.kixeye.com/discuss...omment_4695839 my take on the suxeye forums.

    "I really wanted to enjoy this raid. I really did. I thought the new damage type was not needed but I could do that if the targets were balanced. But they weren't. Even players with the high end tech have trouble with the new faction. In all honesty they should have introduced an easy first raid to get players to experience the new faction in a fun way without spending that much money. It seems like this is what comes at the end of the raid cycle when we have had 3-4 raids already of these targets and know how they work better. You need NEED high end tech to do the raid. Its nigh impossible for anyone under 60 without Rhinos and a frosty or V2s even. Its just not fair for us Kixeye and you can't admit that it is too tough for us now. It makes you look like the greedy company everyone says you are and I want to enjoy the game but I can't because I have to spend not just moeny but ALOT of money to even do the first mission of hte Siege. As much as it would take to do the siege of the previous raid."

    Now with actual post. Give me coin now please?
    Last edited by Drakonez; 09-11-2015 at 08:58 PM.

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    I really like how many of the hull design suggestions from our CM have elite tier specials....and the builds would require us to be on our shipyards and speeding up builds immediately following the last raid in a known direction. Like we had an idea our vaunted Siege missile Z would be totally worthless? Did it enter our minds that we must have fleets full of these bypass missiles?

    Many of the fanbois suggest that using specialized crews is a must. Wasn't there some talk of them never designing events this way for crews and top tier FM tech?? Ya...like we all believed that.

    So now they are basically controlling fleet design direction to the "Nth" degree, and like MM said, next raid, the tactics and weapons we use will be less effective cuz we will have to coin the new shiny toy to come out. The turnover happens too rapidly now.

    Anyhow...after always finding a way to compete in raids for minimal to no coin I've finally sat this one out. I'm too spent to put in the chair time and be a content provider for whales.

    I am resigned to the thought that Kixeye is actively trying to squeeze out the last bit of coin from the 1% with their current strategy...just my thoughts
    Last edited by SHOGUNNNN; 09-11-2015 at 10:55 PM.

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    "I can only ask the community if we don't come together soon. What will change next? How much harder will things get? I know I could adapt and start refitting now, but the question becomes would that strategy work enough next month to make it worth it or would it just make me more frustrated?"

    Can't agree more MM....this event is beyond words (Good or Bad) and is what I consider the straw about to break the camels back. The game was once really fun, took some thought, strategy and driving skills. It's ALL GONE for the most part. Now the one with the most coin, best hack, or plowing tank wins. And the corporate entity that is "Kixeye" seems to have lost any concern for that or the integrity of the game they created. Unless the vast majority of players unite and finally say "ENOUGH" and refuse to donate to the piggy bank...Kixeye will do "NOTHING". Why should they? They continue to make boat loads on money daily. The question becomes: "How do we unite everyone and take a stand?" I am certain I do not have the answer for the game is global, on both web and social media, and it seems to be a daunting if not hopeless task. We in our alliance took a stand this time and have encouraged all our alliance friends to stand down and not participate. So I know of at least 150 or so are sending our message...but I am sure it is not nearly enough.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by SHOGUNNNN View Post
    I really like how many of the hull design suggestions from our CM have elite tier specials....and the builds would require us to be on our shipyards and speeding up builds immediately following the last raid in a known direction. Like we had an idea our vaunted Siege missile Z would be totally worthless? Did it enter our minds that we must have fleets full of these bypass missiles?
    This. I have R8 V2H with thermal and R4 Siege Z missiles (running Missile System 3 so they have high accuracy), also have a BC fleet with Piranha Depth Charges plus my R10 Mercury fleet (D55Z, they hit HARD)...these fleets were worthless.

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